Neither Religion Nor Irreligion

(Murwillumbah, Australia, January 20, 2000, pm)

na dharmam nadharmam sruti-gana niruktam kila kuru
vraje radha-krsna pracura-paricaryam iha tanu
saci-sunum nandisvara-pati-sutatve guru-varam
mukunda-presthatve smara param ajasram nanu manah

Do you know the meaning? (To devotee) You should read the meaning, and then I will explain. (To all) You should be like this. Please hear carefully - it will give you strength in the process for chanting hari nama, so very soon you will have taste in chanting. Don't weep for problems. Don't. Chant, and all problems will go by your service to gurudeva and Krishna. This is the remedy. Weep for Krishna, lament for Krishna. Go on.

Prema Prayojana Prabhu: "Oh my dear mind! Please do not perform either dharma or adharma mentioned in the Srutis or Vedas. Rather, you should render profuse loving service to Sri Sri Radha Krishna Yugala here in Vraja, for the Srutis have ascertained Them to be the highest principle of supreme worship, and the Supreme Absolute Truth. Always meditate on Sacinandana Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, richly endowed with the complexion and sentiments of Srimati Radhika, as non-different from Sri Nanda-nandana. And always remember Sri Gurudeva as most dear to Sri Mukunda."

Srila Narayana Maharaja: What is the essence of the meaning? Syamarani.

Syamarani dasi: Srila Raghunatha dasa Gosvami is speaking to his mind. Actually he is speaking to us through the medium of his mind, and teaching us to broom the dirt away from the mind by these prayers. Srila Gurudeva has explained, that when our Guru Maharaja Srila Prabhupada, and when Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada say that one should beat the mind with a shoe and with a broomstick, in the morning and in the night, they mean this; - that we should chant these prayers, very sweetly brooming, by offering humble prayers to the mind in very sweet words. So here Srila Raghunatha dasa Gosvami is praying to his mind, "Please do not perform dharma or adharma, that is, religious [or irreligious] activities which are described in the Vedas. Don't try for any high material position, of going to heavenly planets, getting resultant good birth, power and so forth, by performing pious activities; and don't make yourself and myself go to hell, by engaging in sinful activities. Rather, you should engage your full energy in worshipping Radha and Krishna. Do profuse loving service to Radha-Krishna Yugala, here in Vraja, because the Srutis have ascertained Them as the Absolute Truth."

Now, very often, our guru-varga asks the following question. In fact, all the commentators mentioned in [our publication of] Sri Manah-Siksa have asked this question - that here Srila Raghunatha dasa Gosvami is saying, "Worship Radha and Krishna Yugala here in Vraja, consider that Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Gaura Hari is non-different from Sri Nanda-nandana, Sri Krishna; and always worship my Guru, and consider him as the dearmost servant of Mukunda".

So, on one hand, we are supposed to engage in eka-nistha, one-pointed bhakti, and [yet] here, he is saying, "Worship Radha and Krishna, worship Lord Caitanya, and worship guru". So this appears to be three. So, very mercifully, Srila Gurudeva explains everywhere in the world, how this is one-pointed, because actually he [Ragunatha dasa Gosvami] is saying that we should always consider Sacinandana, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, as that very same Krishna, who took the bhava and complexion of Srimati Radharani, in order to understand Her love. So, we don't have to worship Radha and Krishna, and Lord Caitanya separately. Lord Caitanya is guru-varam, the supreme guru, Who is Radha and Krishna Themselves combined together, to teach us how to worship Them. And our guru is very dear to Mukunda, meaning that he is a maidservant of Radhika - which makes him so close to Mukunda, that Mukunda falls at his feet, and begs him to pacify the mana of Srimati Radhika. So actually, this is one-pointed worship, and Srila Gurudeva will explain.

Srila Narayana Maharaja: Very good. Thank you. Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura has given the explanation of this second sloka. That is, in the first sloka it is said that you should give up all varieties of false egos, worldly egos; 'I am this person, I am the father of that person, I am the mother of that person, I am the husband of that lady, I am the wife of that man", and doing all kinds of things [acting the part of various relationships]'. So, he [Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura] is saying that if we will do the service of Radha and Krishna, giving up all kinds of worldly designations, then we cannot live. We will die. We must die, because we will not be like householders, or anyone [i.e. we will not be in varnasrama]. I am only serving and serving Krishna. So, how can we maintain our life? If you are not grhastha, you are not doing dharma and adharma. What is dharma?

Prema Prayojana Prabhu: Following the regulative principles of religion according to one's situation in society.

Srila Narayana Maharaja: And adharma?

Prema Prayojana Prabhu: Those things which are against the Vedic injunctions.

Srila Narayana Maharaja: So, if you are giving up all kinds of dharma and adharma, you cannot survive, you must die. Secondly: nitya and naimittika. There are two kinds of dharma, nitya and naimittika. That is called karma, not religion. Daily worshipping something, offering something, taking something, sleeping something, talking something. Some relation with others. If totally you will give up these things, then it is very hard to maintain your life. Secondly she said, that he [Ragunatha dasa Gosvami] has told that you should do ananya bhajana. Na anya - ananya. What [is this]?

[Devotees offer suggestions.]

Srila Narayana Maharaja: Exclusive, one-pointed to Krishna. It is very hard. Especially, how can you give up the bhajana of Caitanya Mahaprabhu? If you are doing bhajana of Radha and Krishna, [and ] you are [also] doing the worship of Jagannatha deva or Nrsimhadeva, all; somewhere we see that Ramacandra, Laksmana, Sita and Hanuman are also there, and Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Nityananda Prabhu, Laddu Gopal, so many. And if you are giving up. You can give up Jagannatha, no harm. You can give up other incarnations, but what to do about Caitanya Mahaprabhu? What should we do? If you are serving Caitanya Mahaprabhu as well as Radha-Krishna conjugal, then it will be not one-pointed. Then what should we do? Then it will not be ananya. We should try to follow ananya. One-pointed. Not so many [ista-devas]. Otherwise how can you concentrate? If you are doing arcana of Radha-Krishna, and also Dvarakadhisa, and Laddu Gopal also, Nrsimha-deva also, and so many: Mahaprabhu, Ramacandra, Laksmana, Sita on the same altar - if you are doing this, it means that you are ignorant. You have no knowledge at all.

Perhaps your guru was not so high, and he has not explained all these things. We should know all these things. All the doubts are explained [in the acaryas' commentaries on Manah Siksa], and they will quickly go away when reading all these things. We should follow Raghunatha dasa Gosvami, who was worshipping Caitanya Mahaprabhu. In what way? As guru. If you are doing arcana of gurudeva and Krishna, no harm. This is ananya.

Try to realize this point. Caitanya Mahaprabhu never said that, "I am Krishna, and you should serve Me, worship Me". But Krishna told, "sarva dharman parityaja/ mam ekam saranam vraja". He has told this so many times; he also told: "man mana bhava [mad bhakto]". Also, "mam eva ye prapadyante/ mayam etan taranti te". Mam eva. So He has told everywhere like this, but Caitanya Mahaprabhu never did. He taught that you should chant, remember, and worship Krishna, Radha-Krishna. Always He told like this. He has not played the part that you should worship Him. We should worship Him, but in what way? Knowing that Radha and Krishna are the same as Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Therefore Mahaprabhu has come, in the shape of guru, like a bhakta - bhaktavatara. Though He is Radha and Krishna Himself. So, He instructed Srila Rupa Gosvami in all these tattvas in Prayaga and also in Jagannatha Puri. He instructed all these things to Srila Sanatana Gosvami in Varanasi. He also inspired everything in the heart of Raya Ramananda at Godavari. He also instructed Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya [in] everything, when he wanted to teach Him Vedanta Sutra. He told so many things to Tapana Misra, when He was a householder in East Bengal. So He has acted like this all the time. Like a sadhaka. He was so merciful, thus He is explaining all these things. Na dharmam nadharmam sruti-gana niruktam kila kuru. You should read the explanation.


Devotees: Haribol!

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