Discussion On Sri Gurvastakam, 1-5
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- Saturday, 02 December 2000
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(Meditation Center, Germany,
December 2, 2000, am)
First of all my heartly dandavat pranamas in the lotus feet of my gurudeva nitya lila pravista om visnupada Sri Srimad Bhaktiprajnana Kesava Gosvami Maharaja and the same, my dandavats pranams, in the lotus feet of my siksa guru nitya lila pravista om visnupada Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja. I know that I'm not qualified, I know that I'm not so intelligent, but the causeless mercy of my siksa and diksa guru has made me like so, that everywhere all are coming to hear.
Especially I'm very happy that from the various parts of the European countries, you have assembled here to hear harikatha in the line of Srila Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Rupa Gosvami, our guru parampara, Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Srila Prabhupada Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Thakura, my gurudeva and also nitya lila pravatista visnupada sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja. I know that especially Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja, my siksa guru, inspired me to come and he engaged me in his service, that you must preach, otherwise I could not have done like this. So anyone coming to me, it means that you are inspired by him and you are coming anyhow by reading his books, by hearing his glories, by his preaching here and there. So I have only come to remind you of his glory that we should know that he is still alive everywhere.
Today I want to give an explanation of gurudeva, what are the symptoms of a bona fide guru, by examples, what has been given in epics. And you can apply it to your gurudeva. Our gurudeva is akanda-guru-tattva, Baladeva Prabhu or Nityananda Prabhu, so all should be applied to him and to others, those who are following this.
praptasya kalyana gunarnavasya
vande guroh sri-caranaravindam
Who has written this Gurv-astaka? Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura. But he has taken the view of Srila Rupa Gsovmai, Srila Narottama Thakura, and he has explained all these things. Though he has written it for his gurudeva, but for akanda-guru-tattva he has written. You know who was his gurudeva? From Caitanya Mahaprabhu in the line of Gadadhara Pandita, Narattoma Thakura came. First came Svarupa Damodara, then Raya Ramananda, then came Rupa-Sanatana, and from Rupa-Sanatana Raghunatha came, and from them, in his line Krishnadasa Kaviraja and Srila Narottama Thakura. And from Narottama, the disciple of Narottama Thakura was Ganga-Narayana Pandita. And then Ganga-Narayana Pandita, his gurudeva?
Aranya Maharaja: Krishna-carana Cakravarti? Radha Ramana Cakravarti?
Srila Narayana Maharaja: Both. Both is one at a time. And then Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura came. He was so humble that he never wrote anything, or he never allowed anyone to call him 'Gosvami'. Cakravati Thakura is like family name.
[one devotees gets up to go to bathroom. Maharaja asks him where he's going]
Srila Narayana Maharaja: I don't want that anyone should go anywhere, and if anyone sleeps, I will punish them. I will tell them to [hold their ears] like this and sit down and up [bob up and down] at least for 20 times. So you should sit [straight] like this, not like this, not like that. I know that you have come from so many very far away places. I know.
Brajanatha Prabhu: Maybe they are tired from yesterday
Srila Narayana Maharaja: Oh, you [one of the organizers] should come here. Don't be late. You should manage at other times, but not here. Here I will manage. [devotees laugh]. Sit down.
We have forgotten Krishna, first of all we are part and parcel of Krishna, and thus we are eternal servants of Krishna. But if anyhow, by chance, we exercise our independence and intelligence.
Aranya Maharaja: Free will.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: Free will, and thus we are now in jail. We have forgotten ourselves that we are eternal servants of Krishna. And also who is Krishna. Now you are recognizing all, that, "Oh, she's my sister, she's my daughter, he's my husband, my wife and all this." But everything transcendental we have forgotten. We are so much attached in this world. Maya is pulling us very far away from Krishna, to this world, in a burning fire. This world is a burning fire, and you cannot move. She had given us like in iron chains, and what are they? This is attachment to this world, to this body, to our relatives and others. We cannot move here and there. And we have been given to fire, burning fire.
Samsara davanala. Samsara. What is samsara? It means like forest fire. We saw once in America, in Alachua, we saw a very big fire. Even the government could not control it, never. It cannot be controlled. And more than that, the fire in the ocean, is more than forest fire. And we are burning. Now we are senseless. If a man is senseless and doctors are cutting here and there, you cannot realize that the doctors are operating. So if you are senseless in fire, you cannot realize that you are in fire. And that is the pitiable condition, very pitiable. Like all in this world, except the transcendental persons in this world, like guru, all others are burning in this. That is why Krishna sent His associate, very high class of associate. Who is that associate? Causeless mercy, causeless mercy has taken a shape of guru, real guru. And then this guru, coming to this world, showering, showering, showering by his mercy, Krishna's mercy, showering everywhere that the forest fire, or ocean fire, is subsided. Otherwise [it will] not [be subsided]. And then a sense may come, and anyone, and that person, guru, out of pity, everywhere going, like Swamiji went everywhere. None called him. Never.
To me, some are calling me, and giving me fares, so many invitations, so much money also, fare, tickets and everything, and you are managing everything for me, but who managed for him and who invited him, and who gave any money to him. He wanted money but.
Brajanatha Prabhu: He came with 40 rupees.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: But who gave him? Maybe by begging. And he came. Why he came?
Out of karuna.
Aranya Maharaja: Causeless mercy.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: [Out of] causeless mercy he came, everywhere he went, everywhere. He knew that I may die anywhere, in the waves of sea, but he never cared. And he came out of India. So this is guru tattva.
If a guru is not like this, very merciful to us, that we are burning in ocean fire, or this forest fire, he cannot be guru, real guru, then he may be kanistha or madhyama, a somewhat very low guru who cannot realize all these things.
Our guru-parampara, all the acarayas have realized this from top to bottom. How? You know Vyasa wrote all the epics, he divided Vedas in four, and then he wrote Vedanta- sutra. He was not satisfied, and then he wrote all the Puranas, but not satisfied. Then he wrote Mahabharata. Why? Because the ladies, the so-called brahmanas, and others had no qualification to enter into Vedic literature, because they are impure and they cannot understand the very deep meaning of all these things. So he wrote Mahabharata, and in Mahabharata, anyone can read and be very energetic, and they can take swords and they can fight, like Bhima, Arjuna, Duryodhana, and all. And in that [Mahabharata] he gave a jewel. And what that jewel was? Gita. And he told sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja. He told this, and don't think you are the doer, and I will protect you, save you.
Aranya Maharaja: Protect you from your sinful reactions.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: From your painful actions. But still Vyasa was not satisfied, and he was thinking the reason why he's so, why he's not feeling satisfaction. And at once Krishna's mercy in the shape of Narada came. Karunya-ghanaghanatvam this is. Narada came, and what he did? "Oh, why you are so. I thought you were satisfied, but I find that you are not satisfied. What you have done? Can you tell me?"
"O Gurudeva I don't know. I have written so many things, practicing all these things, but still I'm not satisfied."
Then Vyasa told that, "Oh, I'm taking your shelter, you are causelessly merciful, so please shower your mercy. I'm not understanding anything, Why I'm unsatisfied?"
And then Narada told, he began to smile and told, "Oh, you have given everything but you are not satisfied. I know why. You have not told what is the reality. 'Krishnas tu Bhagavan Svayam,' you have not written anywhere. And Krishna is controlled by gopis, Yasoda-maiya and others, and most of all He is controlled by all the gopis and especially by Srimati Radhika. Have you written?"
"Oh, I don't know all these things."
"You know that Krishna is Supreme Personality of Godhead. You have written anywhere, but not directly you have written. So you must write down all these things, and you should realize all these things. Have you written?"
"Have you written that Yasoda mother runs more fast than Krishna the Supreme Personality of Godhead?"
"Oh, I don't know all these things."
"Then what have you written and how can you be satisfied? Never. Have you written that Yasoda twisted His ears. The Supreme Personality of Godhead, has anyone twisted His ears before? Kausalya or anyone, Aditi, anyone?"
"Have you written that mother Yasoda tightened Krishna and it was not untied by any of the sakhas. Even Sridam, Subala, Madhumangala and all, they could not untie. Then Nanda Baba came, and with vatsalya-rasa the knot was opened by him. Have you written?"
"Then what you have written? Have you written that Krishna did rasa with the gopis? Have you written? And in that rasa gopis became tired and Krishna told, 'Oh, are you tired?' and He took His pitambara and washed their mouths. And He tightened the ankle belt which was.
Aranya Maharaja: Broken. Fallen down.
Madhava Maharaja: Fallen down.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: Here and there. Then He tightened the ankle belt. Understand?
Aranya Maharaja: Ankle bells.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: Ankle bells. And then He was ready to massage their feets also. And He told that 'na paraye 'ham niravadya-samyujam (SB 10.32.22).
Aranya Maharaja: I cannot repay you.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: So have you written all these things?"
Then Narada told that, "You should realize all these things."
Vyasa told, "How I can realize all of it?"
"Oh, by the mercy of Krishna." And then he gave his mercy. Oh,
samyak pranihite 'male
apasyat purusam purnam
mayam ca tad-apasrayam
You should take shelter of Bhakti-devi. Who is Bhakti-devi? Do you know? Really Srimati Radhika is Bhakti-devi. Incarnation of fullest bhakti is Srimati Radhika. Her mood is called bhakti, Her behavior, Her activities, everything is bhakti, mahabhava, mohana and madana. Understand?
Bhakti is. We know only sadhana-bhakti, but there is sadhya-bhakti. We have no idea. So Radhika is that sadhya-bhakti, the embodiment of that sadhya-bhakti.
"Have you seen?"
"Then you should take shelter." And then Narada gave some outlines on how he should do bhakti, which Vyasa did, and he saw what? He saw Krishna with His power, all the sakhis, all the lilas, Krishna came out of the stomach of mother Yasoda, from the womb of mother Yasoda, he saw. He saw all His sakhis, Lalita, Visakha, with Srimati Radhika, all he saw, and His all sweet pastimes he saw, and then Vyasa became very cheerful and he.
Madhava Maharaja: Composed Srimad-Bhagavatam.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: Not composed. He manifested Srimad-Bhagavatam. Srimad-Bhagavatam was before also.
Madhava Maharaja: Eternal.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: Eternal, and he saw Srimad-Bhagavatam. This is Srimad-Bhagavatam, and then he wrote thus.
And then Vyasadeva became perfect. He saw that his son had become nirvisesa-vadi, impersonalist, and he wanted to be always in samadhi of brahma, brahma, aham brahmasmi, aham brahmasmi. Oh, he became very.
Madhava Maharaja: Unhappy
Srila Narayana Maharaja: Unhappy. Worried, not unhappy. Worried that, "How I should save him." Then he sent so many messages to have [catch] a parrot, and that parrot was Suka Gosvami. Anyhow he came, automatically by hearing the two slokas of Srimad-Bhagavatam: 'barhapidam nata-vara-vapuh karnayoh karnikaram' (SB 10.21.5), this and: 'aho baki yam stana-kala-kutam' (SB 3.2.23). By these Suka was attracted. At once he came to Vyasa and fell flat. For whom Vyasadeva had been calling, "O putra, putra, putra." And now he is coming automatically. Vyasa is not calling, but yet he's calling [by the slokas]. And thus he told that, "You should read Srimad-Bhagavatam with me here." And he taught him Srimad-Bhagavatam. He heard and then out of pity, this Sukadeva Gosvami, when he became perfect by hearing Srimad-Bhagavatam from Vyasa, then out of pity to save Pariksit he went there. No one invited him, never. How he went? Oh, this is guru-tattva. Not like Kali-yuga guru. They can repent, but after some time they will fall down. First they will take wooden sandals and naked body, only here something, and after some time they will fall flat from those wooden sandals, and so many seva-dasis and all others. So these are not guru. They will fall down.
Brajanatha Prabhu: They were fallen, and then they remain fallen.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: So Swamiji has not come to make disciples like this. So we should understand his mercy throughout the whole world. Up to he was old, and he was going everywhere.
You can see the mercy of Vyasadeva, Sukadeva Gosvami, you can see the mercy of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, how He traveled throughout India here and there. You can know the mercy of Narottama Thakura also. How he was merciful. There are so many stories. You now Srila Prabhupada and Bhaktivinoda Thakura, how merciful they were. So this is samsara-davanala-lidha-loka tranaya karunya-ghanaghanatvam. To save. To save these burning persons they are roaming here and there, traveling here and there.
So 'kalyana gunarnavi'.
praptasya kalyana gunarnavasya
He has all the qualities that Nityananda and Baladeva Prabhu has, all the qualities, if he's really guru. There is no chance, not even in dreams, that he will fall down, never. He has all the qualities, very merciful, very humble, very sweet behaviors, having all the kinds of knowledge, all the transcendental qualities will be there. Abode of all the qualities will be there.
Then I'm doing namaskara to, pranama to that very guru. Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura to his Gurudeva, Narottama Thakura, and for all the guru parampara he has told. And for us also he has told, that you should take this as a symptom of a guru, a bona fide guru. You know Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja, he used to play on drums, mrdanga, and he used to weep when he was singing Sad-Gosvami astaka, Gauranga-bolite, oh so many songs. Gaura pahun na bahjiya. So he has all the qualities that has been said here. So we should try to accept such a guru, a bona fide guru like this, otherwise you will be cheated forever, and you will repent and repent and repent.
Those who have taken initiation from Swamiji, they are lucky. We, the disciples of Srila Bhaktiprajnana Kesava Maharaja, we are very lucky, very lucky.
What are the qualities that a guru needs?
vande guroh sri-caranaravindam
A guru must have all these qualities. Mahaprabhu kirtana, nrtya-gita. You know that he used to sing very sweet and very powerful kirtanas, playing on mrdanga. Have you seen him dancing? I have seen him, so much. I am lucky to have seen him. My gurudeva, oh, I have never seen a dancer like Guru Maharaja, never. I have heard that Narottama Thakura and Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu used to dance so much. I have heard, I have read in sastra, but I have never seen. But I have seen my Gurudeva, having his danda, at the age of 50, and dancing. And Mohini mohana prabhu, and Satyavigraha prabhu, were very good mrdanga players.
Madhava Maharaja: And kirtaniyas.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: In the whole of Bengal they were the most qualified for playing mrdanga. On the sound of tik tik dan, they used to jump here and there.
Madhava Maharaja: Playing and jumping.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: And Guru Maharaja, I have never seen a dancer like him. And he was very good singer, my gurudeva also. He used to play on mrdanga also.
Kirtana nitya gita, in all he was expert. Not only in doing kirtana, but making, composing, writing, very expert my gurudeva. You know Narottama Thakura, he was expert in all arts. He discovered mrdanga and kirtana, any new tune, what was garana hatti. Srinivasa Acarya, he has done manoharasayi, and new, new things they have given. Syamananda prabhu gave raneti, so many raga and raginis. All gurus should be like this. If your gurudeva is not like this, then not complete guru, something is lacking.
And unmada, when dancing, kirtana, doing all these things, they used to be absorbed in that thing, then romanca, hairs standing on end; kampa, trembling; asru, melting heart and then that coming as tears. If you are not seeing all these things in your gurudeva, then either you are wrong or he is wrong.
So if we can have a guru like this, oh, we are very fortunate. So [a guru should be] always like this.
I have seen my gurudeva, when he used to remember his gurudeva, [he could not even speak] a little 'Prabhupada', he could not utter 'Prabhu pada', never. Oh here, tears so much in eyes, heart melting and voice chocked. Then he used to tell, "Oh, you should speak something." So I have seen. I am so lucky to see the symptoms in so many of Prabhupada's disciples. Perhaps you have not seen the tears and all these things in the eyes of Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja, but I am lucky to see, his dancing also.
So I'm doing pranama in the lotus feet of our gurudeva, our guru-parampara, my special gurudeva, siksa guru and parampara. We should try to compare all these things. A so-called guru, they cannot do all these things. If they somewhat try to copy, imitate, but their heart is not melting. If even for one day, for one moment his heart has melted, oh, he can never fall, in whole life he can never fall down.
yuktasya bhaktams ca niyunjato 'pi
vande guroh sri-caranaravindam
Sri-vigraharadhana-nitya-nana. He is doing aradhana of nitya vigraha. There are two vigrahas, Krishna is Himself vigraha, transcendental vigraha. And His.
Madhava Maharaja: Holy names
Srila Narayana Maharaja: Vigraha in this world.
Aranya Maharaja: Deity
Brajanatha Prabhu: Murti
Srila Narayana Maharaja: Which has been manifested like Radha-Govinda, Gopinatha, Radha-Madhana-Mohana, Radha-Syamasundara, Radha-Ramana, Radha-Damodara, all, here and there, anywhere. These are vigraha. Nitya vigraha is Krishna Himself. When he's in internal mood he's serving Radha and Krishna, doing aradhana by what? Nitya-nana, sri-vigraharadhana-nitya-nana, nana srngara, nana mandira-marjanadau, doing kirtana, all things, these are aradhana. There are so many various types of worshiping, aradhana. He is doing all this. If anyone is going to or doing arati, it is not sufficient. With romanca, kampa, asru and all, by nitya and by doing all.
Srngara, so many kinds of ornaments, these clothes of Radha, Sri Krishna, Caitanya Mahaprabhu, doing all these things. Don't apply the same thing which has been given to Radha-Krishna conjugal, Radha and Krishna conjugal, or Radha or Krishna, or the same thing to Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Don't decorate Caitanya Mahaprabhu with peacock feathers and vamsi and all other things. Don't give Caitanya Mahaprabhu the ornaments and the cloth of Radhika. Because Caitanya Mahaprabhu has taken the beauty and the shape of Radhika, the mood of Radhika, so should we should give Him Her clothes? No. Don't do all these things. Try to remember all these things. What our guru-parampara, acaryas, have given, we should try to do. Not any thing else. Don't do concoctions.
Yuktasya bhaktams. And they engage their disciples, all the bhaktas. In what? Oh, you should dance, you should do this, you should write these things, you should make all the songs, bhakti-grantha, sri vigraha, aradhana and all these things. Niyunjato 'pi vande. Not only doing, but engaging thousands and thousands of devotees in these things. They are doing, actually they are doing.
But when a guru falls down, you can know the heart of that disciple, that his gurudeva has left his gurudeva and bhakti and everything, left his chanting and everything. Then what will be the disciple's condition? He will weep, he will weep. I think that if you are sincere then Krishna will be also sincere to give you a sincere guru. But if you are not like that, then you may be cheated.
krtvaiva trptim bhajatah sadaiva
vande guroh sri-caranaravindam
Who, who takes, who tastes four kinds of mahaprasadam. Not only one. First giving to all, and then remnants he's taking. You have seen Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Nityananda Prabhu, They distributed to all [with their own hand], and then always not taking and Svarupa Damodara and Raya Ramananda telling that, "O Prabhu, if You are not sitting and taking maha-prasadam then anyone cannot take." Then They became bound, and thus, then they distributed.
So giving mahaprasadam to, and very sweet and delicious preparations to others, and only laphra [boiled mixed vege], not so much good things they used to take. Like Rupa-Sanatana, you know, how they used to do. They never took even namak, salt even, what to tell of other things. A guru should be like this. But sometimes Srimati Radhika used to come Herself, and to give remnants. And Sanatana Gosvami repenting, but Rupa Gosvami not repenting. So many mysterious things are there.
maha-prasade govinde nama-brahmani vaisnave
svalpa-punya-vatam rajan visvaso naiva jayate
Like uttering and reminding all that you should not take prasadam, don't eat, instead you should serve. You should not chant nama, you should serve nama. You should not hear harikatha, you should serve harikatha. In this way, a guru will be like this.
So first he will satisfy all the vaisnavas, and by the remnants, somewhat, anyhow he will maintain his life anyhow, like Rupa-Sanatana and others. So I am doing vandana to a guru like this.
vande guroh sri-caranaravindam
Sri-radhika-madhavayor apara-madhurya-lila-guna-rupa-namnam. Oh, Radha and Madhava have so many madhurya, so many very sweet, tasteful pastimes. Their name has so much madhurya. For example 'Hare', from 'Hara'. What is 'Hara'? Oh She can take by Her beautiful qualities, serving Krishna, prema-mayi-seva.
Aranya Maharaja: Loving service.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: She can take the heart of Krishna and control Him. So all these are, so many sweet pastimes of Krishna, apara. Apara means?
Aranya Maharaja: Unlimited.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: Unlimited. Names unlimited, Radha-Damodara, Radha-Madhava, Radha-Syamasundara, Radha-Ramana, Radha-Giridhari, oh, so many names. So many. Always tasting, relishing all these things. We are not relishing. Why? We have not all these things.
Aranya Maharaja: Realization.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: We are not qualified, but gurudeva has come to make you qualified like him. So always relishing all these things. Somewhat senseless, in your eyes, in the eyes of world. But what he's doing? Inside, internally, he is relishing all these things. And that is why for world he has become senseless. And there, oh, so much active, so much active.
When you will see that anyone, like Caitanya Mahaprabhu, is in the stage of senseless, what He is doing? Or Rupa Gosvami, Sanatana Gosvami, what they are doing? Raghuantha dasa Gosvmai, what they are doing? Oh, they have reached there in Rupa-manjari shape, in other manjari shape and what they are doing? Oh, relishing so many sweet pastimes of Krishna internally.
Lolupasya. What is the meaning of ' lolu.' Who came with us?
Brajanatha Prabhu: Lola.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: Lola. Where is Lola? Where. Oh, your name is successful, lola.
Our gurudeva, any qualified gurudeva, is always lolup. Lolup is a bad thing for worldly things, but for transcendental it is opposite, a very very attractive thing, a very very sweet thing. We worldly persons are so much lubdha, so much lolya (greediness) in sense gratification.
Aranya Maharaja: Greedy.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: In three W's. And any qualified guru always lolya (greedy) for the pastimes of Krishna, dancing, relishing all these things. So gurudeva is so much qualified. He should be, otherwise actually he is not guru. He may be abhasa, semblance of guru-tattva.
[discussion on how long Gurudeva has been speaking for]
Srila Narayana Maharaja: Then the rest we will discuss tomorrow. You should try to go very deep. Visvanatha Cakravati has taken the whole, unlimited ocean, bhakti-rasa and he has given it in a very.
Devotees: Condensed form, small jar, concentrated.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: Nutshell like. As we will realize, think, then ocean of rasa may come. So you should try to read anything like this, in very bigger sense. If you are humble and sincere, all can come. When you read anything, then you should do pranam to whoever has written it, and think that he's there, and then pray that I may understand, and very shortly it will come. Then really you can realize.
My heartly blessings to all, and I'm praying to Krishna that your coming here will be successful. I wanted to speak to each one. I don't want to be controlled by anyone, that anyone cannot meet me. I don't want.
Devotees: Madhava Maharaja. [laughter]
Srila Narayana Maharaja: Oh, sometimes to save me.
Brajanatha Prabhu: If everyone will come, then tomorrow Gurudeva cannot speak.
Srila Narayana Maharaja: So I want to speak with all, those who have come. I know that you ha ve come with a very great hope. I'm not so high class of devotee that I will not speak with you. I want to speak personally with you. Gradually we will speak with all and you should try to realize my classes. Gaurapremanande!
Srila Narayana Maharaja: Bas.