Mathura, India August 30, 2003
Tridandisvami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja
the promise of Devaki to give the Vrajavasis a donation,
Padmavati, the mother of Kamsa, became afraid. She thought, "Now
there will be a big problem. Devaki may give the whole kingdom to
Nanda and Yasoda." Therefore, in a clever way, she began to give
Padmavati asked, "Why are you
talking so much about what to give to the Vrajavasis? It is a very
simple matter. Krsna was only 10 years and 8 months old when He
left Vrndavana, so there is nothing to be confused about. We just
have to make an account of how much He ate and how much buttermilk
He drank in those years. Subtract four years because for the first
four years of His life He only drank breast milk from the breast of
Yasoda, and there is no cost for that. We will calculate how much
they owe Krsna for His cow-grazing, how much food He ate and how
much chach (buttermilk) He drank, and whatever we owe we will give
them double that amount. So there is nothing to be confused about.
We can ask Garga Muni because He is an expert astrologer. His
calculation will not be off by even one paisa.
"There are great quantities of buttermilk in Vrndavana because
no one drinks it. After taking the butter out of the milk, what is
left is chach. It is so useless that the Vrajavasis throw it down
the drain and it goes into one big buttermilk pond in Nandagaon;
the price for it is nothing. So take away three or four years of only
drinking breast milk, and that means about eight years of drinking
buttermilk which costs nothing."
Some people say
that Krsna is in the stage of kaisora (teenage years youth) up
to 10 years and 8 months, and some people say that His
kaisora-lila goes up to 15 years. Srila Sanatana Gosvami has
reconciled this. Krsna has three ages balya, pauganda and
kaisora, and the junction between the three ages is called
vayasasandi. Each of these three ages also has three stages. When
Akrura came to Vrndavana he saw Krsna as kisora, and when Krsna
went to Mathura to fight with Carana and Mustika, the
Mathura-ramanis saw Him as the personification of Kamadeva which is
His kaisora age.
One specialty of Lord Krsna,
and also of Bhagavan Lord Ramacandra, is that when they appear in
this world they never look beyond the age of kaisora. When Krsna
was in Kuruksetra, for example, He was 125 years old, but He did
not have a mustache or beard, and this is one specialty of
The Srimad-Bhagavatam describes
that Krsna's kaisora-lila is performed up to his eleventh year. We
can reconcile this by thinking that when He was in Vrndavana and
eating a lot of butter He appeared like a 15 year-old. Also, He
was the son of Nanda Baba who was a king, so also because of that
He appeared as a 15 year-old older than He actually was.
When Krsna came to Mathura He offered pranama to Mother
Devaki, and at that time He told her, "O Mother Devaki, We are
your sons." As soon as she heard this, aisvarya-bhava manifested
in her heart and she became fearful. Krsna continued, "Unfortunately,
after our birth we were taken to Vrndavana, and therefore you
could not see our pastimes in our balya, pauganda, and kaisora;
ages. You were cheated because you could not see My pastimes."
Immense opulence is displayed in Mathura. Jarasandha came
seventeen times to fight with Krsna. Sometimes Krsna manifests His
four armed form and carries His wheel, club, lotus and conch shell
The symptoms of His kaisora age are
described in Sri Ujjvala-nilamani, but this is such a confidential
subject that it is very rare to find someone who can and will explain
it and someone who can understand it.
devi and the Dvarakavasis heard the comments of Padmavati that
they should work out how much they owe Nanda Baba and pay him,
they simply ignored her, thinking her ignorant.
Lord Krsna had a desire to go to Vrndavana, but at the same time
He considered, "If I go to Vrndavana, what will happen to
Vasudeva, Devaki and all the other Dvarakavasis if they know I
want to leave? They will die if they know I want to leave." Uddhava
previously went to Vrndavana for three months, and he somewhat
knows the heart of Sri Krsna and the Vrajavasis. Krsna therefore
cleverly asked him in front of all the others present, "You know
what the Vrajavasis want. You know what I can do for them and what
I can give them." Krsna considered. "If I myself say that I want
to go to Vrndavana, everyone would blame Me, but if Uddhava says I
should go there, then nobody will blame Me. They will all blame
Uddhava." He therefore very cleverly asked Uddhava this question,
and He also began to cry.
Hearing Krsnas words
Uddhava became astonished and said, "What is this? I went to
Vrndavana and promised all the Vrajavasis that I would bring Krsna
back by hook or by crook. He is Bhagavan and He is sarvajna
(all-knowing), so why is He asking me what the Vrajavasis want?
They do not want any type of opulence or payment, and they are not
interested in anything material or spiritual in the three worlds.
They only want that "my Krsna", "my son", "my beloved" should put
His lotus feet here in Vrndavana."
disturbed thinking, "Krsna is very crooked, and clever. He knows
everything but still he is asking me if He should go to Vrndavana
.This means that He does not really want to go there. He is simply
cheating everyone by asking me."
position Krsna is situated, whether He is in Vrndavana,
Mathura, Dvaraka or anywhere else, He is always sarvajna He
knows everything. In Mathura He is fully situated with His
aisvarya-sakti and He manifests His mood of knowing everything. In
Vrndavana, however, He is simultaneously mugdha, like an ignorant
child and not knowing anything, and He is sarvajna meaning He
knows everything. Both exist at one and the same time. For
example, when Krsna is performing rasa-lila with the gopis and
playing on His flute, Draupadi is in Hastinapura calling out to Him,
"Dusasana is trying to disrobe me. Oh Krsna, save me, save me!"
Does Krsna know this? Yes, He knows even in His situation of being
in rasa, because it was He who put Draupadi in Her situation of
Thinking in this way,
Uddhava considered, "Krsna is very cruel-hearted. He is a cheater.
His behavior is very poor, otherwise why would He ask me that
When Akrura went to Vrndavana his
heart did not melt, When Uddhava went there, however, his heart
melted somewhat and he somewhat understood the moods of the
Vrajavasis. By the mercy of the gopis he offered many prayers to
their lotus feet, and by their mercy realization came in his
All the Vrajavasis have no self-interest,
and of all the Vrajavasis the gopis are the topmost. They are the
unique examples of the complete definition of pure bhakti as stated
in Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu (1.1.11):
silanam bhaktir uttama
of activities which are meant exclusively for the pleasure of Sri
Krsna, or in other words the uninterrupted flow of service to Sri
Krsna, performed through all endeavors of the body, mind and
speech, and through the expressions of various spiritual
sentiments (bhavas), which is not covered by jnana (knowledge
aimed at impersonal liberation) and karma (reward-seeking activity),
and which is devoid of all desires than the aspiration to bring
happiness to Sri Krsna, is called uttama-bhakti, pure devotional
The Vrajavasis perform continuous
service to Lord Krsna. They are not interested in any type of
material opulence from Svarga (heaven) or from anywhere else. This is
the difference between the Vrajavasis and the Dvarakavasis. For
example, in the previous class we heard how Satyabhama wanted the
parijata flower from heaven. So even the Dvarakavasis have some
type of desire and want something from Svarga (the heavenly
planets). On the other hand the Vrajavasis are not interested in
anything material or spiritual. They are only interested in seeing
the lotus feet of Krsna again and serving Him.
the mood of the most exalted gopi, Srimati Radhika, prays,
aslisya va pada-ratam pinastu mam
marma-hatam karotu va
yatha tatha va vidadhatu
mat-prana-nathas tu sa eva naparah
Krsna tightly embrace this maidservant who has fallen at His lotus
feet, or let Him trample Me or break My heart by never being
visible to Me. He is a debauchee, after all, and can do whatever
He likes, but He is still no one other than the worshipable Lord
of My heart." (Sri Siksastakam Verse, 8)]
goal is Sri Krsna's happiness. They think "If Krsna is happy in
Mathura and Dvaraka, we do not want to force Him to return to
Vrndavana. Let Him happily stay there."
Radharani prayed, "I don't want My own happiness. Krsna can do
anything He likes. He can make Me happy by embracing Me or He can
crush My heart underneath His feet. Even though He is a debauchee and
full of bad qualities, He is my only beloved."
When Uddhava was in Vrndavana and heard the prayers of the gopis
and the Vrajavasis, he considered, "Maybe the gopis want to give a
return message to Krsna." So he asked them three times, "Is there
anything you want to say to Krsna?" Srimati Radhika said, "There
is no need to give Him any message. In fact, you should not mention
that we are suffering in separation from Him in any way. Tell Him
that we are very happily residing here in Vrndavana. His heart is
very soft, more so than butter. If He hears that we are suffering
in His separation, then perhaps He will also experience great
suffering and He may die."
Uddhava now replied to
Krsna, "I can give you advice, but I do not know if my advice is
good or bad. You can decide for Yourself."
Krsna killed Kamsa and Carana and Mustika and their friends, Nanda
Baba was waiting on his bullock cart just outside Mathura. He
waited throughout the night, but Krsna didn't return. The next day
Krsna and Balarama somehow managed to meet with him. Krsna was
thinking, "What should I do? Should I stay in Mathura or should
I return to Vrndavana with Nanda Baba? He said, "O Nanda Baba.
Vasudeva and Devaki are your friends. They have lost six sons.
Devaki has no sons and no one to comfort her. What should we
Baladeva is the son of Vasudeva, so Nanda
Baba suggested, "Balarama can stay in Mathura for a few
Balarama said, "That is not possible. I
cannot be separated from Krsna."
They finally agreed
that Krsna and Balarama would stay in Mathura for a few days,
and then they would both return to Vrndavana.
Krsna had become prince and Devaki had given Him many ornaments
such as necklaces and armbands. As a token of His affection Krsna
gave all this jewelry to Nanda Baba, and Nanda Baba went back to
Vrndavana empty-handed except for the jewelry.
Nanda Baba promised Mother Yasoda and all the Vrajavasis, "Don't
fear. I promise to bring Krsna and Balarama back to Vrndavana."
When Nanda Baba came back, however, all he had was one pile of
jewelry. All the Vrajavasis became grief-stricken and began to accuse
Nanda Baba. They said, "What have you done? Have you sold Krsna
and Balarama for this jewelry? Nanda Baba was also overwhelmed
with grief. He said, "No, my son Krsna is satyavaka whatever He
says must come true. This jewelry is simply His token of affection
for you. When He returns to Vrndavana, as He said He would, and
sees that you are not wearing these decorations and ornaments, He
will be very unhappy. Therefore, in order to fulfill His desire,
please wear these ornaments."
If one is a
saranagata-bhakta, fully surrendered, Krsna hears his prayers.
sad-anga saranagati hoibe jahara
sune sri nanda-kumara
["The prayers of one who
submits unconditionally to this six-fold surrender are heard by Sri
Nanda-kumara." (Sad-Anga Saranagati verse 5)]
Lord Krsna is totally absorbed in Vrndavana in rasa-lila, day and
night serving Srimati Radhika, and if someone like Draupadi,
Gajendra or any saranagata bhakta prays to him from the core of
his heart, who will hear him? After all, Krsna is totally absorbed
there in Vrndavana. Someone may say that the manifestation of Krsna
known as Paramatma will hear. But that devotee is not praying to
Paramatma, Ksirodakasayi Visnu, or Lord Narayana. He is praying to
Sri Krsna, to Nanda-Kumara; so Krsna is bound to hear. He is
mugdha in Vrndavana, forgetful of everything except His loving
relationships there, but at the same time He is sarvajna. Yogamaya
serves Him there; she always searches for any occasion to serve.
Although Krsna may not be aware of all the happenings outside His
intimate surroundings, she is aware. This is all
When Nanda Baba returned alone with
the jewels that Krsna had given him, the gopis and all Vrajavasis
were thinking," Fie on us. This is how little Krsna appreciates our
love for Him. He is giving us these jewels as a payment so we
are the most unfortunate."
Suppose someone goes
to a foreign country and sends money every month to his family
will the family be happy? No, because this is only one type of
self-interest on the part of that family member. The gopis were
lamenting, "This is how little Krsna values our love. We are the
most unfortunate. Fie on us and fie on Nanda Baba."
The only reason the gopis and Vrajavasis did not die was because
Krsna had promised that He would return the "day after tomorrow."
The priya, lover, is very fortunate because she lives only for the
happiness of the priyatam, beloved, and the priyatam is most
fortunate because he lives only for the happiness of his priya. Both
only live for the happiness of each other. This principle of lover
and beloved is described in Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Cc Madhya-lila
ch. 13), a most wonderful and astonishing book.
Srimati Radharani puts a flower in the hand of Lalita and,
weeping, told her, "O Lalita, when I die you can give this flower
to Krsna. I planted a creeper of malati flowers and I will not be
able to nourish it after I die, so you can tell Krsna that I died
thinking of Him and give Him this flower."
Yasoda devi was waiting for Nanda Baba to return to Vrndavana, she
had some hope that Krsna would surely return. When she saw him
coming with a bag of jewels, however, her last hope was destroyed.
She gave up eating, sleeping and all other bodily activities, and
simply wept day and night. This was the condition of Yasoda Maiya,
so what to speak of the condition of the gopis.
Uddhava now considered, "What can I do? I cannot go there again,
because I promised the gopis that I would return and definitely
bring Krsna. Nanda Baba was weeping and crying for three days and
his life airs had come up to his throat, but he did not die. Just
before someone dies their life airs come up to their mouth. Nanda
Baba was thinking, 'If Krsna comes back to Vrndavana and we have
all died, He will experience great suffering and pain. So we
should live for Krsna's happiness. My son always tells the
truth, so we must have faith in His words. When He says He will
return, He will certainly return.' With this hope, therefore, the
Vrajavasis are maintaining their lives."
sent a message with Uddhava saying, "O Nanda Baba, don't worry. I
stay here with the Yadus and all your friends like Vasudeva and
Devaki only because they are related to you. I stay with them to
give them some happiness." When Nanda Baba saw this message he
told all the Vrajavasis, "My son is truthful, He will surely return
just as He said." Krsna had written, "Nanda Baba, you are the life
of My life. I must come to see you again." Nanda Baba used
many types of logic to help all the Vrajavasis understand that,
"Krsna has a few duties there, like killing Jarasandha and a few
other demons, but when He is finished He will return. This jewelry is
not a sign of neglect; it is a sign of His prema for us. When He
sees us wearing this jewelry He will become very happy because we
fulfilled His desire. All the Vrajavasis complained about the
words of Nanda Baba. Uddhava considered that the Vrajavasis were
very simple but that Krsna was very crooked because even after
hearing this He did not return to Vrndavana.
Uddhava said, "I went to Vrndavana to try to pacify the Vrajavasis
but their separation increased more and more. O Krsna, don't you
know that the Vrajavasis have unlimited love towards You? Their
love is like an ocean, and still You neglect them. What is this?!"
Uddhava remembered that Krsna had sent a message to the gopis which
told them to meditate on Him: "Be in samadhi. Just as the earth is
everywhere, so I am everywhere and nothing is separate from Me.
This universe is made of earth, air, fire, water, ether, mind,
intelligence and false ego which all comes from Me. You, and
everything in this world, are nothing but Me, the Supersoul; I am
all-pervading. You can therefore meditate, and you can see Me in
your meditation." This was all jnana (knowledge of God's
opulence). The Vrajavasis put that jnana in a cloth, threw it in the
Yamuna, and it flowed down to Varanasi (a place of studying
Krsna later gave the same message to the
gopis at Kuruksetra, and hearing it they became angry. The gopis
are always in a natural samadhi. They always think of Krsna in
walking, eating and everything they do. They replied to Krsna's
words, "Don't tell us to meditate. We don't want to think of You.
We try to forget You and to think of our household affairs, but we
cannot. Your instructions for us to perform bhakti, to take us out
of the material world, is not very instructive to us.
Srimati Radharani continued, "My mind and Vrndavana are
one. You tell Me to think of You in My mind, but My mind and
Vrndavana are the same. So therefore, if You put Your lotus feet
on the land of Vrndavana, this will be true meditation."
Translator: Pujyapad Damodara Maharaja
Advisors: Pujyapad Madhava Maharaja and Sripad Brajanatha dasa
Editor: Syamarani dasi
Transcriber: Vasanti dasi
Typist: Anita dasi