Badger, California May 20, 2004
Tridandisvami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja
[Brajanatha dasa:] This devotee came to see you many years ago. He
wanted to take initiation, but he didn't do so yet. He is very
qualified in making videos and recordings.
Narayana Maharaja:] One cannot be happy by making videos and
engaging in other worldly activities. He should know who he is.
What is your name? Is your name the name of the body or the
Narayana Maharaja:] What is your designation? Who are you?
[Devotee:] The soul.
Maharaja:] Have you realized something of this? How tall you are
or whether your complexion is black or white or golden? How strong
are you? Do you know? You should try to know by entering the
correct process. You should first come in this process Dont waste
your time. If you are not realizing yourself, you have no
intelligence. You cannot be happy. You cannot be happy. You cannot be
harer nama harer nama
kalau nasty eva nasty eva
nasty eva gatir
"In this age of quarrel and hypocrisy the
only means of deliverance is chanting the holy name of the Lord.
There is no other way. There is no other way. There is no other way."
(Caitanya-caritamrta Adi-lila 17.21)]
are so many kinds of chanting of the holy name. There is
suddha-nama (purest name), then pure name, then nama-abhasa
(shadow of the name), then nama-aparadha (offense to the name),
and so many variations in each category. Not everyone is chanting the
pure name. One pure name can give you krsna-prema. Nama-abhasa
will not do so, and moreover, our chanting of the name is not even
nama-abhasa. We think that without Guru our chanting of the name
will be the pure holy name, but it is nama-aparadha. If you remain
with me, although I am chastising you
Actually I am
not chastising you. I am weeping as I tell you to realize this
fact. I am also weeping for the cows. They don't know that they
will go to the slaughterhouse tomorrow. You are in that class as
well. If you do not engage in bhakti, tomorrow you will go to the
slaughterhouse. So dont waste your time.
dasa:] Regarding the lady disciple of Ramanujacarya in the drama
performance last night; if she had some desire to enjoy with that
merchant, would she have done what she did?
Narayana Maharaja:] Her only obligation was to her Guru, and
therefore Sri Ramanuja wanted to glorify her to this world
that a lady disciple can be like this. She had no obligation to
her father, mother, husband or anyone. She decided, "I must go and
serve my Gurudeva. I am not this body or this false ego. Let this
body serve Sri Gurudeva." She had to think whether guru-seva is
the highest morality or worldly morality is the highest. She
decided "there is no use of chastity if it doesn't assist in my
[Devotee:] When is one justified
or qualified in severing one's material obligations for the service
of Guru and Krsna because if one has some motivation he falls
[Srila Narayana Maharaja:] There are so
many symptoms. Words alone "I want to serve" will not do. The
devotee must be very strong like the lady who decided, "There is
no use of chastity if it doesn't serve my Guru." Her self-realized
Guru therefore empowered her, and that is why, when she gave his
prasadam remnant to the lusty food-store owner, he was at once
purified and gave up his lusty desire.
Sometimes Srila Prabhupada gave initiation through tapes. When I
received the tape through the mail, it was broken.
[Srila Narayana Maharaja:] Were you satisfied, or
[Devotee:] I took siksa from you.
[Srila Narayana Maharaja:] Why did you take it? You were
not satisfied by the mail. If you had taken direct diksa
initiation then you would have been satisfied. There is some effect
in taking initiation by phone; it has a greater effect if it is
taken by direct glance.
[Devotee:] So, can I
still consider that I have taken diksa initiation from Srila
Prabhupada? Because the tape broke, the temple president, who
wasn't even following the regulative principles, told the mantras
[Srila Narayana Maharaja:] Connection with
bona fide initiation in that way is far away, far away, far
[Devotee:] How can we increase our
[Srila Narayana Maharaja:] I have
discussed the answer to this question day and night, ands still you
raise the question. Follow what I explained yesterday in class,
and the day before. Read Jaiva-dharma and all my books; and read
Srila Bhaktivedanta Svami Maharaja's books. Throughout
Bhagavad-gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam guru-nistha is discussed.
Can you at once give your head for Guru? No. We
have given our head. When our Gurudeva desired a special service,
we gave our heads (we were prepared to sacrifice our lives to
accomplish that service), and that is why he gave me his causeless
mercy. I am not telling that history here, but I gave my head.
Parama-pujyapada Srila Bhaktivedanta Svami
Maharaja did this also. He was dying on the steamship that was
traveling over the ocean to come to America. You should realize
this. We can at once give our heads, our life and soul. We know
that, "My soul is immortal; I am immortal; I am transcendental; I
Sripad Madhava Maharaja and Sripad Brajanatha dasa
Transcribers: Vasanti dasi
Typist: Anita dasi
Editor: Syamarani dasi