Tridandisvami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja
IS GURU REALLY OMNISCIENT?San Jose, California: June 20, 2006
Please excuse us, that we don't have a
picture of Srila Maharaja speaking in San Jose. We hope you will take pleasure
in this, our most recent photo of him. Here he is speaking in Noida, India, on
March 31st, a few days before leaving for his 2007 summer Western preaching
In Badger I explained so many things that I have
never told before. I explained about the only process to escape from
the burning fire of worldliness and gradually develop your Krsna
consciousness. But I see that very few are accepting my teachings
most want to enter the fire and be burned. An example is given of the
elephant, who rushes into a ditch because he is maddened by a
she-elephant. Rushing into the fire of sense gratification is like
The Vedic literatures have told so many histories, like
that of Pururava and others, about the burning fire, or the burning well. I have
explained about this topic from the 11th Canto Srimad-Bhagavatam,
from the teachings of Krsna to Uddhava: Therein Sri Krsna said, If you really
want to be happy and attain krsna-prema, then follow My not my; Krsnas
Especially, I have instructed the brahmacaris and sannyasis
to be very careful. There is no more to tell than what I have told in Badger.
Even those who are householders should try to come out from that burning well.
Dont again try to enter household life. But hardly anyone is listening to me,
so what can I do? This is maya.
Some think that Guru is not omniscient. They ask: If Srila
Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada knew that practically all his sannyasis would
fall down, why did he give them sannyasa? They are wrong to doubt. Lord
Ramacandra knew that Sita would be stolen, so why did He go running after that
deer? Krsna knew everything. He knew that His dynasty would be destroyed by
becoming intoxicated on rice wine and killing each other. Why did He not stop
this from happening?
Dont think that Guru is not omniscient. Guru always
remembers Krsna and Krsna is with him. Srila Suta Gosvami has said, My Guru,
Srila Sukadeva Gosvami, knows everything. If you do not reconcile this, you
will have some doubt in Guru. Guru is omniscient, but Guru should be bona fide.
Try to follow my instructions and be happy.
[Question:] After the battle of Kuruksetra, the women wept as they went to the
Ganges to offer oblations for the family members who had
died in battle. Krsna was following behind and He was also crying. Sometimes it
is difficult for us to understand the difference between compassion and
sentimentalism. Can you please explain this?
[Srila Narayana Maharaja:] These are the humanlike pastimes
of Krsna. Krsna is atmarama (satisfied within); He is more than atmarama. He is
the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself, so we cannot make a comparison
between Him and others. It was by His wish that the Mahabharata battle
transpired. If He liked, He could have stopped the war; but He purposely did not
[Question:] Krsna is omniscient. Since He wants to give the
living entities their minute independence to make the choice to do right or
wrong in this world, He doesnt interfere. But isnt Gurudeva coming to this
world specifically to interfere somewhat with the independence of the jivas; to
preach to them and help them?
[Srila Narayana Maharaja:] This applies to a
madhyama-adhikari Guru. [See endnote 1]
[Devotee:] If he is omniscient and knows everything that is
going to be happening
[Srila Narayana Maharaja:] He knows, but sometimes he
[Devotee:] What is the reason? Does he want the living
entity to experience some result of their past activities?
[Srila Narayana Maharaja:] They should use their freedom.
Madhyama-adhikari Guru will say, You should not do this, but Krsna will not
tell them. I am telling everyone, You should not become entangled in sense
gratification. For countless births we have been marrying, having daughters,
sons, and so on; but again, in this life, he wants to marry. You can taste this
same sense gratification in dogs, pigs and all other species, so why are you
wasting time in this?
Even those who are in married life should not be attached.
Gradually, they should come to the stage of vanaprastha [See endnote 2] and
after that they should take sannyasa. They should give up everything like
Dattatreya [See endnote 3], and like us; preaching the mission of Sri Caitanya
Thank you all. Now I must get ready to go to
[Devotee:] Srila Gurudeva, these are my friends, who have
come to meet you for the first time.
[Srila Narayana Maharaja:] [Speaking to the guests:] You
should know that one day you will be old. Your beauty will be gone, and one day
you will have to give up this body. You will give up this world, and you dont
know where you will go. After death, what will happen to you? Can you take
anything with you? No. The soul is different from this body. Try to realize
Chant Krsnas name, and dont take meat, eggs, wine and
other things. Chant Hare Krsna and be happy forever.
[Endnote 1: In a similar way,
a guru may be madhyama-uttama, a madyama-adhikari in the final stage; he may not
yet be siddha (a perfect, self-realized soul) like Sri Narada Muni, Srila
Sukadeva Gosvami, and others. In that case, if he is a sincere devotee and if a
disciple follows him with deep faith, who will give the fruit of the disciples
worship? A madhyama-adhikari cannot give it. If one is an uttama-adhikari like
Narada Rsi or Sri Sukadeva Gosvami or Srila Rupa Gosvami, he can give it at
once, but a madhyama-adhikari cannot. The madhyama-adhikari guru will tell
hari-katha and engage his disciples in such a way that they will advance in
bhakti. What will be the result? If one has very deep faith in that guru, Krsna
Himself will surely give the fruit, and that fruit will be transcendental. Krsna
will give that disciple the fruit of the association and shelter of an
uttama-adhikari guru. To a devotee initiated by a madhyama-adhikari guru and who
really desires to attain the highest goal, Krsna gives the association and mercy
of an uttama guru
who can bless the disciple with that goal. Try to
understand this. It is not very easy to understand, but try. Do not have any
doubt about this. Uttama-adhikari gurus are not easily available; they are very
rare in this world. Moreover, even if they are available, most people (Guru-Devatatma
Accepting Sri Guru as Ones Life and Soul, page 28)
It should be understood that
a madhyama-adhikari, a second-class devotee, is fully convinced of Krsna
consciousness but cannot support his convictions with sastric reference. A
neophyte (kanistha-adhikari) may fall down by associating with non-devotees
because he is not firmly convinced and strongly situated. The second-class
devotee, even though he cannot support his position with sastric reference, can
gradually become a first-class devotee by studying the sastras and associating
with a first-class devotee. However, if the second-class devotee does not
advance himself by associating with a first-class devotee, he makes no progress.
There is no possibility that a first-class devotee will fall down, even though
he may mix with non-devotees to preach. Conviction and faith gradually increase
to make one an uttama-adhikari, a first-class devotee.
(Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila
[Endnote 2: A householder, after fifty years of age, would
retire from the association of woman as a vanaprastha to be trained to live
alone without the association of woman. When the practice is complete, the same
retired householder becomes a sannyasi, strictly separate from woman, even from
his married wife. (Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.7.6, purport)]
[Endnote 3: Yadu Maharaja was a very religious person in
Krsna's family dynasty, and he had great love and affection for brahmanas and
sages. One day he saw a naked person traveling. He noticed that although that
person did not beg anything from anyone, he was very healthy and very happy."
The following verse reveals the type of people who are unconditionally happy:
"The supreme occupation [dharma] for all humanity is that by which men can
attain to loving devotional service unto the transcendent Lord. Such devotional
service must be unmotivated and uninterrupted to completely satisfy the self." (Srimad-Bhagavatam
1.2.6) That person was always remembering Sri Krsna's pastimes. Yadu Maharaja
offered obeisances to him, put the foot dust of that person on his own head and
said, "I would like to know something. You are naked and you have no
possessions. You are not begging anything and you are roaming here and there.
How is it that you look so happy and healthy? I want to know this." That
person's name was Dattatreya, and he was a manifestation of God. Dattatreya
replied, "O Yadu Maharaja, I have accepted twenty-four siksa-gurus: Prthivi
(Earth), Vayu (air), sky, water, fire, the Moon, the Sun, the pigeon, the
python, the ocean, the moth, the bumblebee, the elephant, the honey collector,
the deer, the fish, the prostitute named Pingala, the hawk, the baby, the
unmarried girl, the arrow-maker, the snake, the spider and the wasp. (Srila
Narayana Maharaja, Badger,
June 16, 2006)
Remember all the examples (of the twenty-four siksa-gurus)
that were told by Dattatreya. Give up everything all worldly desire for wife,
children and everything else. Give your heart, mind and everything you possess
to Guru and Krsna. Then everything will be alright. (Srila Narayana Maharaja,
morning walk on
June 17, 2006)]
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