Tridandisvami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta
Narayana Gosvami Maharaja
Los Angeles, California: June 8, 1998 [part 2]
[The following is a first-time-published
excerpt of a darsana held on June 8, 1998 in Los Angeles, California:]
[Devotee:] My mother recently died, in September. I was not able to place Tulasi
leaves in her mouth, but I did hold a ceremony, and we read passages from the
third and sixth cantos of Srimad Bhagavatam. I surrounded her dead body with
Tulasi leaves. I didn't put the leaves in her mouth just all around her. I
didn't see her get cremated.
I'm just wondering, is she going to be okay? She did come to me in a dream, and
she said, This is wonderful. Everybody looks like Krsna. Thank you. I'm just
wondering, is there any chance for her spiritual advancement in spiritual realm
of Vaikuntha? Is there any chance that she is in Krsna-loka, or what?
[Srila Narayana Gosvami Maharaja:] I will tell a story about this: There was
once a king who had thousands of sons. Those sons were killed burnt to ashes
as a result of committing a great offense to a sage. Thousands of years later,
there was a good son born in that dynasty. He served Krsna, and he was therefore
able to bring the Ganges from the Himalayas to the place where his ancestors had
been burned to ashes. Although only a very little part of his ancestors´ bones
remained and were touched by the Ganges, his ancestors were at once liberated
and went to Vaikuntha.
Tulasi is not less powerful than the Ganges she is more powerful. Whether your
mother was alive or not, if Tulasis leaves touched her body, she will be
quickly liberated. She told you in your dream, I am happy, so it is alright.
You have done so much for her.
Also, Srimad-Bhagavatam is even more powerful than Tulasi. Srimad-Bhagavatam is
the embodiment of Krsna Himself. If one word of the Srimad-Bhagavatam has
touched her ears, certainly, no doubt, she has been liberated
[Devotee:] It doesn´t matter whether she was alive or dead at that time?
[Srila Narayana Gosvami Maharaja:] Either way. The soul does not die. We have so
many examples of this conclusion. Once, after a certain person died, he became a
ghost. He was taken by the Vaisnavas, by mantra, within a bamboo stick, to a
place where there was a recitation of Srimad-Bhagavatam for seven days. After
seven days, he was liberated. Don't have any doubts in this regard.
If anyone takes Tulasi or applies tilak even one time in his entire life, or if
he has chanted, Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare
Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare, willingly or unwillingly, he will be liberated. If
one has not uttered the holy names Hare Krsna, but by chance he heard the
chanting from far away Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare, Hare Rama
Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare he will be liberated. Suppose he heard many
devotees passing through a road. Suppose he had been sleeping there, and at that
time the devotees were passing by and chanting, Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, but he
could not hear the chanting fully. Suppose he only heard the last word,´ Hare,´
or not even `Ha´, only `re´. Still, he will be quickly liberated. The holy name
is so powerful.
Muslims do not utter the holy name Rama, but if they see a hog they say,
Harama, harama. Harama means abominable [*See Endnote 1]. In the word
harama is the word Rama, and first is ha, which in Sanskrit means oh, or
alas. Taking the spiritual meaning, this means, Oh Rama! Krsna easily hears
this and thinks, He is calling Me: ``Ha Rama.`` Krsna will then come and
liberate that person.
His name is so powerful; it is so powerful. This cannot be realized by modern
science, because modern science is atheistic.
Even if someone has no belief, and he hears the holy name once in his entire
life, that name will do its work.
More Questions and Answers
[Question:] Are all other rasas (relationships with Sri Krsna) within
madhurya-rasa (the relationship with Sri Krsna as lover)? Does madhurya-rasa
contain all the other relationships? In madhurya-rasa, does one taste the other
[Srila Narayana Gosvami Maharaja:] Srimati Radhika sometimes rebukes Krsna as a
friend would do. She may say to Him, Oh, massage my feet, as friends might say
to each other. Sometimes She may serve Krsna better than a mother would do.
Sometimes She serves Him so much better than the best of servants (like Hanuman
or others like him). And sometimes She serves as a beloved. No one can serve
Krsna as She does; every mood is in Her that is madhurya-rasa.
Sometimes Krsna and the gopis gamble; this is a type of play among friends.
Sometimes the gopis clap to congratulate Srimati Radhika on Her victory. They
call out, Oh, Radhika has defeated Krsna! At that time, Madhumangala and other
cowherd-boys say, Oh Krsna, let us leave now; otherwise You will have to become
their servant, and then they will very quickly take Your flute and crown and
everything else. So let us leave here right away All relationships are in
madhurya-rasa, and that is why it is best among all rasas.
If you do not pay something for this, you cannot develop all these moods. Your
heart is the daksina (donation given by the disciple at the time of receiving
initiation). By giving your heart, you can realize these moods. If you have no
faith, if you do not regularly hear hari-katha, and you are not paying daksina,
these moods will not enter your heart.
[Question:] Do you think that it is a noble attempt to live separate from
society and technology, and to be self-sufficient? We have our own land and
everything is produced there...
[Srila Narayana Gosvami Maharaja:] We should make our entire environment
conducive to bhakti. This is okay. We should create our environment so that we
can chant and remember Krsna. We can take help from technology. If you are not
using technology, like airlines to go here and there, water lines, electricity,
gas lines, and building materials, how will you maintain yourself? You will have
to use some of this, but that is helpful. Make a sacred environment for bhakti.
[Question:] I guess the idea would be to create an environment where a society
of devotees can learn to live independently from cities and industry.
[Srila Narayana Gosvami Maharaja:] Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja tried very
hard to do this, so why did most of the devotees leave that environment? They
were bound to give it up. Sometimes Krsna comes, or His associates come, and
they make an environment like this, but after their departure, slowly, slowly,
slowly, maya comes. You can try and make an environment that will be helpful for
[Question:] She was born on Ratha-yatra day. She is so lucky. She has graduated
recently from a very big American university Duke University.
[Srila Narayana Gosvami Maharaja:] She is very qualified.
[Question:] She is very qualified. She is an artist.
[Srila Narayana Maharaja:] That is why she is grave. [Turning to the young
lady:] But you will have to take admission in our university, where we have
studied Haridasa Thakura University. You know Srila Haridasa Thakura?
[Srila Narayana Gosvami Maharaja:] We have been admitted there, and we have
learned something there. If you are admitted to that university, your knowledge
will be complete. Srila Haridasa Thakura never read ABCD or anything like that.
He was only engaged in chanting and remembering Krsna, and he realized all
essential truths. He realized the nature of this entire world, of Svarga
(heaven), of Vaikuntha, and of Goloka Vrndavana, as did Sri Narada Gosvami. I am
happy to meet you.
[*ENDNOTE From Srimad-Bhagavatam 9th Canto, translations and purports by Srila
Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja Prabhupada:
Following the instructions of the great sage Aurva, Sagara Maharaja performed
asvamedha sacrifices and thus satisfied the Supreme Lord, who is the supreme
controller, the Supersoul of all learned scholars, and the knower of all Vedic
knowledge, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. But Indra, the King of heaven,
stole the horse meant to be offered at the sacrifice. King Sagara had two wives,
Sumati and Kesini. The sons of Sumati, who were very proud of their prowess and
influence, following the order of their father, searched for the lost horse.
While doing so, they dug into the earth very extensively. Thereafter, in the
northeastern direction, they saw the horse near the asrama of Kapila Muni. "Here
is the man who has stolen the horse," they said. "He is staying there with
closed eyes. Certainly he is very sinful. Kill him! Kill him!" Shouting like
this, the sons of Sagara, sixty thousand all together, raised their weapons.
When they approached the s age, the sage opened His eyes.
By the influence of Indra, the King of heaven, the sons of Sagara had lost
their intelligence and disrespected a great personality. Consequently, fire
emanated from their own bodies, and they were immediately burned to ashes.
The material body is a combination of earth, water, fire, air and ether. There
is already fire within the body, and our practical experience is that the heat
of this fire sometimes increases and sometimes decreases. The fire within the
bodies of the sons of Sagara Maharaja became so much hotter that all of them
burned to ashes. The fire's increased heat was due to their misbehavior toward a
They were killed by the fire of their own bodies because of
insulting a great personality.
The great and saintly king Bhagiratha brought the Ganges, which can deliver
all the fallen souls, to that place on earth where the bodies of his forefathers
lay burnt to ashes.
Because the sons of Sagara Maharaja had offended a great personality, the heat
of their bodies had increased, and they were burnt to ashes. But simply by being
sprinkled with water from the Ganges, all of them became eligible to go to the
heavenly planets. What then is to be said of those who use the water of mother
Ganges to worship her?]
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