All Will Be In Vain

Oahu, Hawaii: Jan. 19, 2002 (Evening - Part 1)

Tridandi Gosvami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja

All glories to Srila Swami Maharaja. I know that he has collected you all

and brought you here, and as far as I am concerned, he has dragged me here.

All glories to him. Only glorifying will not do, however. We'll have to

follow his instructions. It is not enough to say, "All glories to Srila

Prabhupada." You have to follow his deep instructions in your life, and then

the fruit will come. Otherwise, where you were before, you will remain, and

there will be no advancement.

'sadhu-sanga', 'sadhu-sanga' – sarva-sastre kaya

lava-matra sadhu-sange sarva-siddhi haya

"The verdict of all revealed scriptures is that by even a moment's

association with a pure devotee, one can attain all success." (Cc. Madhya


If you have a little sraddha (faith), or even if you have nistha (firm

faith), or even ruci (taste), if you have no sadhu-sanga, no high-class

association, you will lose whatever you have. Even if you have attained the

stage of ruci, if that ruci has not matured, there will be some doubt.

Again, so many offences and unwanted mentalities and habits will attack you,

as they attacked Bharata Maharaja and others. I know that you are not at the

stage of Bharata Maharaja or anyone of his calibra. Whether or not you have

even achieved nistha, you can judge yourself by keeping your hands on your

heart and asking your heart.

Although you have not attained nistha, still I am discussing with you the

topics concerning our aim and how we can achieve it. If you are not in the

correct process, even if you think you have so much love and affection, if

your feelings and activities are not approved by sastra, then all is in


[Sripad Madhava Maharaja:] Sruti-smrti-puranadi-pancaratra-vidhim vina /

aikantiki harer bhaktir utpatayaiva kalpate. ["Devotional service to the

Lord that ignores the authorized Vedic literatures – the Upanisads, Puranas,

Narada-pancaratra, etc. – is simply an unnecessary disturbance in society

(BRS 1.2.101)."] Sruti means Veda, and smrti means smrti-sastras

(corollaries to the Vedas) like Manu-smrti. Pancaratra means

Narada-pancaratra. The great sages have explained in their books about the

goal and process to achieve it. Without the approval of these sastras, and

without the proper process, if you do something by your uncontrolled mind

and you think, "This is the best process. I have discovered it by myself,

and by this process I can achieve krsna-prema," your actions will go in vain

and they will also create chaos in your mind. The day will come that you

will give up all spiritual practices.

[Srila Narayana Maharaja:] As much as your bhakti increases, humility will

come and you will think, "I'm very low." If your bhakti has not increased,

then only false ego will act. If bhakti is gradually developing, then

gradually your humility, as told in slokas like 'trnad api sunicena,' will

manifest. You will realize, "I really have nothing. I have no power. I

really have no bhakti." At that time you will be able to realize how

insignificant you are. Srimati Radhika thinks in this way. She says, "I

actually have not even a scent of prema for Krsna. I have not served Him. I

have not even seen Him." Only She can speak like this, as this is this the

symptom of mahabhava. It is very high. You should realize that you are

nothing. You are a particle, and that particle can be covered at anytime by

maya. Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura therefore says in his Sri Bhajana Rahasya

that even if you have received nistha, you should hear from high-class


There are two kinds of bhagavatas. One is the transcendental book bhagavata,

which was received by Vyasa in his trance, and in which all kinds of very

powerful and sweet pastimes of Krsna have been given. It is under lock and

key, however. It can be only opened by the highest class of

bhakta-bhagavata. These devotees have the key. Any ordinary bhakta, anyone

who is in a stage lower than rati, cannot unlock it. Only one who has

received suddha-sattva from an eternal parikara (associate) of Krsna, like

Srila Rupa Gosvami, Srila Sanatana Gosvami and all the sad-Gosvamis, Srila

Narottama dasa Thakura, and others up to Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura and

Srila Prabhupada, can open the lock.

Don't lose the fortune to hear from superiors. Even if your whole business

goes down, there is no harm. Even if you lose your job in a government

department, that is not a loss. On the other hand, if you lose your

opportunity for saddhu-sanga, that is a great loss.

I know so many devotees here, especially from India, who don't avail

themselves of sadhu-sanga. They have come to the West to make money. Their

money is more important to them than bhakti. On the other hand, you have

left all these things and you have come here to hear. You are most

fortunate. Continue in this way. To lose any worldly thing is not really a

loss, but to lose this opportunity is very unfortunate.

Sometimes, if your friend or relative is a mayavadi, karmi, yogi, or jnani,

you try to please him – because he is your friend. Don't associate with such

people, even if they are your friends or relatives; otherwise, you yourself

will become a mayavada. Don't associate with mayavadis, and especially don't

associate with lusty persons and friends of lusty persons. If you want to

make advancement, then make friendship with a devotee who is superior to you

in bhakti, who has love and affection for you, and who is svajatiya,

like-minded. 'Like-minded' refers to one who is like-minded for paramartha

(transcendental life) – not for worldly things. He should be an ocean of the

type of prema for which you aspire. By hearing from him, you develop

increased steadiness in bhakti, and you also develop all the stages beyond


Transcribers: Srimati Malati devi dasi and Srimati Damayanti devi dasi

Editor: Srimati Syamarani devi dasi

Typists: Srimati Puja devi dasi and Srimati Radhika devi dasi